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I was wondering if the Rune Quake mode could be used like CRMOD is used now? Essentially add some features to the Rune Quake mod so that you do match mode and duel mode, etc.

Basically, CRMOD is a very old mod that has little hope for being updated, while the RuneQuake mod is very robust and has a lot of features and could possibly become the pre-eminent mod for NetQuake, meaning it could be used for almost any situation.

There is a 1vs1 match mode, and it's playing constantly at quake.runequake.com:26001. The losing players cycle each match, rather than pick teams.

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My intention was never to replace CRMod with adding its features to Rune Quake, but more so to expand the features of Rune Quake so that CRMod players wouldn't hate it so much and maybe to shut Baker up.

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Slot Zero

I know Baker has been in touch with JPG about digitally signing proquake, maybe he could talk about releasing the CRMOD source? I have to agree, CRMOD is by far needing updates. It is a solid mod, but it is just getting old.

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The European players in particular love RuneQuake as a replacement for CRMOD because they are bigtime into custom maps. CRMOD only supports 10; those guys are actually using 150 of the 200+ that RuneQuake supports.

Although I don't know for sure, I have a feeling they vote the runes off most of the time and mostly play vanilla DM with it.

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When I was initially talking with JPG, it was just about getting it digitally signed. After several exchanges, mostly of me updating him on what I either fixed in the engine or how I made the engine more modern but in a very subtle way (video mode switching, etc.), instead of digitally signing it he asked if I would be interested in taking over ProQuake.

I thought about bringing the issue of CRMOD up, but I think RuneQuake is so close vs. the kind of effort it might take to update CRMOD.

CRMOD is fine for matches, even with the handful of things that on rare occasions cause problems.

However, RuneQuake is perfect for vanilla FFA deathmatch and almost perfect for serious DM. Add in the rocket arena support and all the flexibility and RuneQuake is the perfect public DM like. Kind of like how you can do airshot, practice mode, or instagib in CAx.

With map download capability built into the engine (this will happen by summer), the flexibility of RuneQuake's huge custom map support will really be invaluable for public servers.

Yah, runequake is a very robust mod. The quake.shmack.net:26002 server is almost perfect for a FFA server, although it would be nice if the maxspeed was set at the default value of 320 rather than 350.

Why would you like to crawl (walk) when you can run (400)?

All experienced players have always-run mode on, which takes advantage of the maximum allowed server move speed. Me myself I set all the move variables to 999.

It's just nice to have consistency across servers w/ regards to player speed. I'm not saying that all servers should be at 320 maxspeed, just ones that are trying to be more like normal quake.

Had 11 players, many of which normally only play CRMOD, play a match game there tonight on DM3 with no complaints.

Slot makes it look so easy, but this really is an amazing mod.

hi there guys, as you may know i'm administering the euroquake servers and i got some feature/bugfixes requests:

issues i'd like to see resolved (reference runequake 1.3):



also, what's the maximum number of custom maps that can be added to the custom maps list using the online script?

thanx for the good work, keep it up!

=peg=

These have already been addressed:



These items will be addressed prior to 1.4's release:



These might not make it into 1.4's release:





I'll get back to you on this, I can't recall off the top of my head.

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Slot Zero

i noticed but its not in the 1.3 source (unless i missed something ) cheers anyways!



thanx for pointing that out! moving it to settings.qc would be less confusing for sure (i'm only a qc noob )



that's great! cheers! but for 1.3 as is, the only way to set weapons-stay on (without actually voting) is by setting the deathmatch value.. (unless i missed something)



nice!



suppose you only use one +attack button (no direct fire aliases like +rl "impulse 7;+attack") then when you spawn and run over the RL, it won't switch to RL unless you manually do so.. this is not the case however for all other weapons..
(personally i use a +rl alias so this does not affect me, but other players have complained about it)

edit: i had a look at weapon.qc and from what i can see, my guess is: automatic switching to RL/GL on pickup was deliberately left out (probably on request too and i can see why.. walking over RL in the middle of an axe-fight would be suicide.. i guess it is just a matter of personal preference..).
so it has pro's and cons, either way i think people should use client-side bestweapon anyways..



ah that's cool! i noticed 1-1-1 was possible in match-mode but it was borked.. guess it's fixed now then cheers!



i know that when match mode is locked, duel mode is effectively already present but i was thinking about a mode where only 1-1 is possible and the other players get in line like in rocket arena to take on the winner of the previous round.. however unlike rocket arena this is not a one frag ordeal but rather a timed match (say 5 or 10 minutes much like in warsow)

in other words: observers would get in the challengers cue and the first in line would be the new challenger for the next round (loser of the previous round becomes last in line of the challengers cue)
pressing "2" would get you in and out of the challengers cue just like in rocket arena / midair-mode



as it is now, typing "custom" in console will show a list of custom maps devided in 3 categories (small, medium, large)
what i'm suggesting is adding 2 more categories: rocket arena and midair
it would look like this:


and it would be cool if the mod only picked from the rocket arena list when the it's in rocket arena mode
and if the mod only picked from the midair list when the it's in midair mode.

i know these are a lot of maps in this particular example and it would probably go over the 200 maximum..
but hey! we like to play lots of custom maps and i got loads more i'd like to add
if there is anyway to make a virtually unlimited number of votable maps that'd be great! for the time being i use a work around that has nothing to do with the mod itself..
connect to bigfoot.quake1.net:26001 and say !maps in main-chat to see what i mean..



cheers, appreciated! thanx for your time slot

edit: changing vector WEAPON_CHARGED_OFFSET in settings.qc and recompiling does not seem to have any effect whatsoever... just a heads up..

Thanks, I just fixed this.

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Slot Zero

hehe me too! easiest fix ever

edit:

also, as far as i'm concerned:

never mind my previous request:

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- ROCKET ARENA and MIDAIR section in the custom maps list and make the mod only pick those maps for those modes respectively on timelimit/fraglimit.

i found a better solution to this myself by making the mod always select bakers "rockgate" map after one of the rocket arena maps is played (as long as the mod is in MODE_ARENA that is)

i'll just make a similar selector map for midair mode..

thanx anyways

All of these improvements are going to pay-off.

yes! euroquake is finally more or less in shape! it still has the odd crash but that's probably not related to the mod...

with default settings for each mode and rocket arena finally working as intended, things are looking good!

btw, midair mode is great fun! gonna make some more maps for it

thanx for all the effort that went into runequake! it rocks now

(awaiting 1.4 with patience )

I added random spawn today. Seems to be working OK.

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cool

you're da man!

Is there a way to turn off the quad and pent appearing on top of the player's head?

Another thing I would like to see implemented for match mode is the ability not be forced to spawn in immediately after being killed. After being killed, the player would need to actively choose to spawn back in (usually by pressing the jump or fire key), and if the player does not actively spawn back in, then they are then forced back into play after 5 seconds.